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shtyd80
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Posted: Aug 22, 2006, 11:36 PM
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i have an 05 turbo automatic. I want to make it a little quicker and not risk reliability of the car? what modifications can i safely do without risking breakage. i know it all depends on how i drive the car and such but normal driving with a little racing now and then. I would like to do a blow off valve even tho i know they arnt the best thing for the engine. Do the turbos that the PT cruiser hanldle cold air intakes. or are they garbage like the mazda speed turbos that over spin themselves when cold air is installed? What cheap but effective upgrades should i look into?
and help is apreciated.
THanks
Derek
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rszappa1
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Posted: Aug 23, 2006, 3:38 AM
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 If its an Automatic...leave it alone...It cannot even last with the power it has now....
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TomsCruise
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If you mod the automatic have a separate fund to rebuild the trans cause it will happen. With that said go over to PTCrew.com and check out the mod bible. You will find everything you need to know on that site when it comes to performance.
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If you mod the automatic have a separate fund to rebuild the trans cause it will happen. With that said go over to PTCrew.com and check out the mod bible. You will find everything you need to know on that site when it comes to performance.
Yep.. The Auto trans is just not strong enough to withstand the added power.. Most of Auto guys do have a seperate fund and just say "Warranty what warranty!" and build up the trans when they kill the OEM one.
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hyracer
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1. Don't do anything to add power...and plan on rebuilding your auto tranny at some point
2. Buy Stage 1 and a drop in K&N filter replacement and enjoy the added responce and boost...and plan on rebuilding your auto tranny at some point.
3. Sell your Cruiser and then go buy a GT 5-spd. Add all the mods and even go to a big turbo and make 400 WHP. Upgrade your clutch but don't worry about having to rebuild your 5-spd.
4. Sell everything. Go buy an 07 Z06 Corvette for $70,000. Don't worry.
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MountainBlue1
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She said a "little quicker" not Z06 quick!!
If you have a turbo "lite" the stage 1 will be all you need, but the tranny issue is still there regardless of stage 1 being installed or not.
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jopie2929
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Somebody,anybody!!!!!
I am just curious ...since I also have a 05 GT automatic A/S.Is there anybody out there that owns a automatic that doesn't have a problem with their transmission?? All I read is negative things about it and I am feeling a little uneasy about my purchase.
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i have an 05 turbo automatic. I want to make it a little quicker and not risk reliability of the car? what modifications can i safely do without risking breakage. i know it all depends on how i drive the car and such but normal driving with a little racing now and then. I would like to do a blow off valve even tho i know they arnt the best thing for the engine. Do the turbos that the PT cruiser hanldle cold air intakes. or are they garbage like the mazda speed turbos that over spin themselves when cold air is installed? What cheap but effective upgrades should i look into?
and help is apreciated.
THanks
Derek
I got Stage One and K&N drop filter as my "performance addons." I also changed the plugs and wires, while I was at it. I don't do any racing, but I've had no problems with the transmission. It's possible that someday I will, but I don't worry about it. So far it's been 13,000 miles of trouble free driving since the upgrade. 
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Ted in Columbus, Ohio
2005 Limited Turbo Lite, Linen Gold. Stage 1, AMX-TTAB, K&N drop filter. Crane firewires, iridium plugs. Chrome gas cap, chrome logo license plate frames, chrome door spears, chrome grill overlay, portholes, chrome pillar posts, retro tail lights and shorty antenna. 17" Konig wheels, Michelin Pilot Sport A/S tires. MB Quart speakers with a JL Audio Stealthbox sub woofer.
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TKessel
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Somebody,anybody!!!!!
I am just curious ...since I also have a 05 GT automatic A/S.Is there anybody out there that owns a automatic that doesn't have a problem with their transmission?? All I read is negative things about it and I am feeling a little uneasy about my purchase.
Yeah, I think everyone with something negative to say jumped in, but anyone who didn't have anything negative to say didn't. I have 13,000 with Stage One, 15,000 altogether. No problems here.
If I took my car to the track, street raced, and started doing neutral drops, I'd be expecting trouble. I don't do those things, and I'm not expecting trouble.
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Ted in Columbus, Ohio
2005 Limited Turbo Lite, Linen Gold. Stage 1, AMX-TTAB, K&N drop filter. Crane firewires, iridium plugs. Chrome gas cap, chrome logo license plate frames, chrome door spears, chrome grill overlay, portholes, chrome pillar posts, retro tail lights and shorty antenna. 17" Konig wheels, Michelin Pilot Sport A/S tires. MB Quart speakers with a JL Audio Stealthbox sub woofer.
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mean green
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My auto tranny on my '01 PT went out at 81k miles. That's with a measley 150 hp engine. Most people won't have a problem with the auto tranny. More than the average amount will. Depends what catergory you fall into. There's always that chance. 
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IvAnOv
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The BOV it´s only a noise maker LOL... you can´t get HP wit that...
I have a DCS2 and it´s automatic too...
This is my list of mods...
PERFORMANCE PARTS
AIR TURBO CAI (AIRAID)
PCV FILTER (RAD RACING)
DUAL MANUAL BOOSTER CONTROLLER (TURBOXS)
WASTEGATE HP ACTUATOR STAGE 3 SPRING LOAD (AGP TURBOCHARGERS)
IGNITION WIRE SET 8.5 mm LINER SOCKET (MSD)
BRAKE LINE SET/STEEL ABS FRONT & REAR 4mm (RUSSELL RACING)
EBC GREEN STUFF SPORT REAR PADS (EBC)
SILICONE HOUSING VACCUM (TFV)
CONNECTORS VACCUM (NOS)
DOUBLE GAUGE PILLAR (GREY 2 1/16)
ELECTRIC OIL PRESSURE GAUGE (AUTOMETER)
BOOST GAUGE (AUTOMETER)
FITTINGS EARL 5/8" (EARL´S)
STRAP & CLAPS (THERMO TEC)
HOUSE & WIRING PROTECTION (THERMO TEC)
SPARK PLUGS SET HP IRIDIUM (NGK)
SHOCK TOWER BRACE CHROME PRELOAD 3 PTS. (BTG BH)
BUSHING SET (ENERGYSUSPENSION)
CAMBER ALINE SYSTEM CAS (EIBACH)
BOV (MOPAR)
RACE PIPE 3" WITH O2-SENSOR
160° LOW TEMP THERMOSTAT (MOTORAD RACING THERMO TECHNOLOGIES)
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The BOV it´s only a noise maker LOL... you can´t get HP wit that...
I have a DCS2 and it´s automatic too...
This is my list of mods...
PERFORMANCE PARTS
AIR TURBO CAI (AIRAID)
PCV FILTER (RAD RACING)
DUAL MANUAL BOOSTER CONTROLLER (TURBOXS)
WASTEGATE HP ACTUATOR STAGE 3 SPRING LOAD (AGP TURBOCHARGERS)
IGNITION WIRE SET 8.5 mm LINER SOCKET (MSD)
BRAKE LINE SET/STEEL ABS FRONT & REAR 4mm (RUSSELL RACING)
EBC GREEN STUFF SPORT REAR PADS (EBC)
SILICONE HOUSING VACCUM (TFV)
CONNECTORS VACCUM (NOS)
DOUBLE GAUGE PILLAR (GREY 2 1/16)
ELECTRIC OIL PRESSURE GAUGE (AUTOMETER)
BOOST GAUGE (AUTOMETER)
FITTINGS EARL 5/8" (EARL´S)
STRAP & CLAPS (THERMO TEC)
HOUSE & WIRING PROTECTION (THERMO TEC)
SPARK PLUGS SET HP IRIDIUM (NGK)
SHOCK TOWER BRACE CHROME PRELOAD 3 PTS. (BTG BH)
BUSHING SET (ENERGYSUSPENSION)
CAMBER ALINE SYSTEM CAS (EIBACH)
BOV (MOPAR)
RACE PIPE 3" WITH O2-SENSOR
160° LOW TEMP THERMOSTAT (MOTORAD RACING THERMO TECHNOLOGIES)
Nice. You need an aftermarket uppercharge pipe (ucp) to hold you higher boost longer. The factory ucp balloons at high boost and won't hold it as long. What's your boost set at on the first stage of your bc and on the second stage of your bc.
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Nice. You need an aftermarket uppercharge pipe (ucp) to hold you higher boost longer. The factory ucp balloons at high boost and won't hold it as long. What's your boost set at on the first stage of your bc and on the second stage of your bc.
His sig says 16 and 21 lb... Ya, he could certainly use a UCP... Haven't seen Adam around at all recently.
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Nice. You need an aftermarket uppercharge pipe (ucp) to hold you higher boost longer. The factory ucp balloons at high boost and won't hold it as long. What's your boost set at on the first stage of your bc and on the second stage of your bc.
His sig says 16 and 21 lb... Ya, he could certainly use a UCP... Haven't seen Adam around at all recently.
Thanks Matt, I missed that......I'm interested how you are spiking to 21 on the second stage without pulling timing. I don't see a map clamp listed there. Also do you know what your AFR is 'cause I think you might be running lean spiking to 21 with no fuel mod? Sorry for all the questions. It's how I learn.
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jouster
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ted,
we must drive better in central ohio. i guess some folk drive like it is a ferrari. i'm hoping the tranny lasts better than they say. my other car is an 'o1 and gas 78,000 on it. knock on wood, but it's doin' fine.
see you around cowtown. 
kirk
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IvAnOv
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YES I´M AGREE WITH ALL OF YOU PEOPLE, WHEN I´M INSTALL ALL MY PARTS, OF COURSE I HAVE PROBLEMS (CHECK ENGINE ETC... ) BUT I FIX THE PROBLEM WITH AN ALTERNATIVE VACCUM SELENOID ROUTE, AND YES !!! I HAVE A DOWN PIPE OF 3" (NO CAT BACK)... SO... I REALLY CAN HOLD THE 21PSI AT STAGE 2, DO YOU WANT A VIDEO? ...
I HAVEN´T A FUEL MODE...
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OK I have the DC2 Slap stick an I have 103,000 Miles on the trany. I wont do the Stage 1 due to the miles on the Trany an Motor. I have done the Airbox Mod, K&N filter, 06 Plastic Intake.an the AMX box to turbo pipe
I am guessing that due to over the 100,000 miles an mods I am pushing 220 hp.
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jopie2929
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Dave,
I take it that you had no problems with the auto tranny.
What was the interval/milage on the transmission fluid changes on you DC
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 I have over 50,000 miles on my 03 Dream.No problems.The automatic is ok.Not everybody wants a 5 speed.
Jerry
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rszappa1
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So do i on my 04 PT...That is why I dont plan on installing stage one or more horsepower mods....
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I take it that you had no problems with the auto tranny.
What was the interval/milage on the transmission fluid changes on you DC
Filter every 12,000 an a fluid flush every 30,000
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YES I´M AGREE WITH ALL OF YOU PEOPLE, WHEN I´M INSTALL ALL MY PARTS, OF COURSE I HAVE PROBLEMS (CHECK ENGINE ETC... ) BUT I FIX THE PROBLEM WITH AN ALTERNATIVE VACCUM SELENOID ROUTE, AND YES !!! I HAVE A DOWN PIPE OF 3" (NO CAT BACK)... SO... I REALLY CAN HOLD THE 21PSI AT STAGE 2, DO YOU WANT A VIDEO? ...
I HAVEN´T A FUEL MODE...
You had better check your air/fuel ratio because at 21 lbs you are probably running lean and you can burn a hole in your piston. You can't just turn the boost up that high without adding more fuel and without a map clamp you better believe the pcm is pulling timing. With Stage 1 anything over 18.5 lbs of boost the pcm will pull timing and you will actually be slower.
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IvAnOv
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mean green,
I agree,
You are right,
but I have change the routes on the vac’s and made some mod’s for this purposes (to cheat the ecu to read i need more fuel…like the red. on the temp...LOL), no doubt about running lean at high boost level, that’s why I don’t use a lot of time on this stage 2, even so I Believe the injector oem’s can do the job, any way I thank about this observations I’m on it!.
Best wishes
Ivan
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mean green
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mean green,
I agree,
You are right,
but I have change the routes on the vac’s and made some mod’s for this purposes (to cheat the ecu to read i need more fuel…like the red. on the temp...LOL), no doubt about running lean at high boost level, that’s why I don’t use a lot of time on this stage 2, even so I Believe the injector oem’s can do the job, any way I thank about this observations I’m on it!.
Best wishes
Ivan
Ok my friend, long as you have got it under control. I don't want to see you melting anything. Have fun.
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Beyond 1000
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If its an Automatic...leave it alone...It cannot even last with the power it has now....
I don't know where you pulled that answer from. Please qualify it.
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