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russ1214
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Posted: Sep 1, 2006, 1:10 PM
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Just bought my first Cruiser.....love it to death!!! Its an 06 GT. Im looking for the best cold air intake kit. Could u folks help?
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Bill
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mean green
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Posted: Sep 1, 2006, 11:25 PM
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You ought to do a search. Any question you have has been discussed many times. A hot air intake is not a good mod for a turbo. You gain a couple of hp and lose torque in double digits from sucking hot engine air. Seen it on the dyno. Best is doing airbox mods, a K&N drop in filter and replacing the turbo to airbox hose. You still gain a couple of hp but do not lose any torque. How far are you going to mod your GT?
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Dream 4
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Just bought my first Cruiser.....love it to death!!! Its an 06 GT. Im looking for the best cold air intake kit. Could u folks help?
Thanks in advance,
Bill
As stated above by Mean Green, most (98%) of the open air intakes are worse than the stock air box, they make a nice noise, but suck in all the hot air under the hood,(costs you HP), now if you have the mechanical ability to remove the left front tire and loosen the inner fender well the you can use one of the 2 or 3 True cold air intakes that are avalible and run the cold ram air hose from the filter to the vent hole next to where the left fog lamp is, this will give you 20+ hp increase due to the density of the colder air being forced into the hose at higher speeds, Here is a picture of the one on my DC4 that a few of use over at PTCrew.com have used, it is called the Apollo Cold Air intake by K&N and is completley sealed from under hood air.
http://www.knfilters.com/universal/apollo.htm
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mikemcl
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Posted: Sep 2, 2006, 5:24 PM
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Very nice mod, never seen such a radical airfilter change before. Was it hard to do the wheel well "loosening"...also is the tower brace causing any issues with the turbo? I notcied it is very close to it>?
Awesome job!
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Dream 4
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Very nice mod, never seen such a radical airfilter change before. Was it hard to do the wheel well "loosening"...also is the tower brace causing any issues with the turbo? I notcied it is very close to it>?
Awesome job!
No, it was not hard to do, a few 4mm screws and 3 or 4 push pins and the plastic wheel well liner pulls back to install the air hose, also with the 3" aluminum elbow I had from another project amd my AMX1397TTAB pipe that replaces the factory airbox to turbo hose, the filter lined up with the factory fender air hole, and there is already a depression in the inner fender well for air flow anyway, this kit just makes it a true forced cold air intake with a 70mm inlet hose to run anywhere you want outside of the engine compartment area, "although if you live or drive where water would get higher than the inlet you might not want to run the inlet hose to the lower vent and find a higher inlet around the battery area if you happen to have one of the smaller batteries instead of the factory one, or else leave a "water gap" between the filter and the hose as to prevent water damage to your engine!
The Apollo is ideal for normally aspired engines up to 250BHP and turbo engines up to 350BHP, although I have seen tests that show that two of these into a 3.00" Y adapter and 3.00" hose on a large 3" inlet turbo engine would be more than enough for a 500hp engine!
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Very nice!! I have another filter similar to the K&N but more elongated that I am hooking up to my TTAB from AMX. Waiting on a pipe now but am thinking about running the intake to the grill. I have the Odyssey battery. Any more pics of your install? Especially where the air comes in.
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IvAnOv
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Posted: Sep 4, 2006, 9:54 AM
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http://www.knfilters.com/universal/apollo.htm
Incredible !!! I never seen a real CAI for a PT Cruiser... I have the AIR RAID and I feel that my HP increase.
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Very nice!! I have another filter similar to the K&N but more elongated that I am hooking up to my TTAB from AMX. Waiting on a pipe now but am thinking about running the intake to the grill. I have the Odyssey battery. Any more pics of your install? Especially where the air comes in.
This is the only other one that I took, showing the air inlet beside the drivers side fog lamp.
How do you like the Odyssey Battery, I have been looking at them and also the Braille lightweight racing battery.
http://www.brailleauto.com/index.html
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Incredible !!! I never seen a real CAI for a PT Cruiser... I have the AIR RAID and I feel that my HP increase.
Your Airade HP increase was a couple of HP you can't even feel. That's ok, a lot of people get fooled by their butt dyno. 
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IvAnOv
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Your Airade HP increase was a couple of HP you can't even feel. That's ok, a lot of people get fooled by their butt dyno.
 
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What do you do or plan to do about water, snow and stuff. In the winter Looks like it could clog the pipe. The Odyssey is great no problems. Cut the battery tray and used that to help hold the battery.
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What do you do or plan to do about water, snow and stuff. In the winter Looks like it could clog the pipe. The Odyssey is great no problems. Cut the battery tray and used that to help hold the battery.
As I am retired on disability, I normally don't go out in bad weather, but if I have to the hose is made to quick disconnect at the filter under the hood, I also am working on an adapter to space the hose & filter approx 1" to 1.5" apart as a water gap, then I will test it to see if it changes the performance, as to if I leave it in all year round or not.
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...Best is doing airbox mods, a K&N drop in filter and replacing the turbo to airbox hose. You still gain a couple of hp but do not lose any torque...
This worked very well for me and I couldn't be happier with the results  -- awesome performance and outstanding highway gas mileage! 
 
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This is the only other one that I took, showing the air inlet beside the drivers side fog lamp.
How do you like the Odyssey Battery, I have been looking at them and also the Braille lightweight racing battery.
http://www.brailleauto.com/index.html
"Intakes that protrude under the front bumper which claim to get more air forced in through the pressure built up on the front of the car as it cuts through air do not have significant power gains, other than the benefit of the cold air from outside the engine bay, - the RAM effect takes speeds up over 100 mph before a benefit is realised - they are however a great way to collect many botanical specimens of fly's, moths and bugs in the air filter!"
- http://www.torquecars.co.uk/Tuning/air-induction.php
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"Intakes that protrude under the front bumper which claim to get more air forced in through the pressure built up on the front of the car as it cuts through air do not have significant power gains, other than the benefit of the cold air from outside the engine bay, - the RAM effect takes speeds up over 100 mph before a benefit is realised - they are however a great way to collect many botanical specimens of fly's, moths and bugs in the air filter!"
- http://www.torquecars.co.uk/Tuning/air-induction.php
Ok, excuse the hell out of me! I was just trying to show the original poster that there was in fact a "True Cold Air" intake that would work on the PT and prevent "Hot" engine air getting into the intake, which WILL make more power than an open air intake sucking in hotter less dense underhood air. Also, as far as I know all air filters will collect bugs & dirt, that is why air filters are used!!
I don't now why I even try to answer any posts here as everybody is more of an expert than me!
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Hello IvAnOv - I've been looking at the Air Raid, and the fact that it uses the base of the factory air box seems to me to be a benefit as the filter is protected somewhat from direct heat from the engine. Because the base of the factory airbox is used, will the factory inlet to the fender also remain in place (and maybe still coax some cooler air to the filter)?
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Im happy to read that ! Im very good too with the Short Ram Air System
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This worked very well for me and I couldn't be happier with the results -- awesome performance and outstanding highway gas mileage!
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Hey Dream 4, I don't think anyone is criticizing you. I like reading evryones opinions for what works best for each person. It's just like the Dr. that treats Hypertension there are many antihypertensives to try. I personally enjoy reading each input that a person writes about! So don't quite!
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Sorry to have to tell this, but that is similar to what it states on the Stage I PCM too!!!
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Ohhhh, phroggy, I think you just plunked my twanger again ---LOL! So what happens with these add-ons if you need engine servicing? I mean, wouldn't that be grounds for non-warranty coverage? (I've seen other posts about increased performance add-ons not affecting warranty). Lis
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Melissa
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excuse the dyslexia: warranty NON-coverage. Lis
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Depends if you have a mod friendly dealer. You're going to have to ask the dealer how they fell about mods. Find one who is friendly.
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This seems to be a dealer issue more than anything. If you check the threads, I don't think anyone has been turned down for warranty work because of Stage I. My PT '04 lite Stage I has been in a couple of times and they didn't even know it had a Stage I PCM till I told them. Once I even brought in the OEM PCM so they could troubleshoot a no start problem. They never said anything but thanks and everything has always been covered.
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