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I am thinking of purchasing the plastic intake for my '04 turbo along with the BTG strut tower brace. I noticed in the instructions that the vanity cover is removed and not replaced when installing the brace. I like the look of the cover, but if I can't use it with the brace I won't buy the intake with the vanity cover. Has anyone installed this combination? I also noted that the clutch master cylinder needed to be re-located down when installing the brace, which I did as a test by bolting the bracket to one of the pcm bolt positions which is approx 2 inches lower than the original bracket. I'm wondering about access to the clutch and brake master cylinders with the brace in place. Any advise would be greatly appreciated!
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mean green
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I am thinking of purchasing the plastic intake for my '04 turbo along with the BTG strut tower brace. I noticed in the instructions that the vanity cover is removed and not replaced when installing the brace. I like the look of the cover, but if I can't use it with the brace I won't buy the intake with the vanity cover. Has anyone installed this combination? I also noted that the clutch master cylinder needed to be re-located down when installing the brace, which I did as a test by bolting the bracket to one of the pcm bolt positions which is approx 2 inches lower than the original bracket. I'm wondering about access to the clutch and brake master cylinders with the brace in place. Any advise would be greatly appreciated!
Most people are installing the plastic intake without the vanity cover because the cover retains heat and leads to heatsoak. I had the BTG strut brace on my '03 5 speed GT and did not have to relocate the clutch master cylinder. It was very close, though. I had to place a piece of rubber 3/8" hose on the strut bar to keep the plastic resevoir from rubbing on the strut bar. All GT's are different, though and you may or may not need to relocate your resevoir. You could probably manufacture some type of bracket to keep the resevoir in about the same place but a little offset to not interfere with the strut bar.
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mean green
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Posted: Dec 21, 2006, 9:23 AM
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With the plastic intake you are going to have to manufacture a bracket to attach the oil dipstick to the intake to keep it secured. I think a little L bracket was used. A friend of mine didn't secure the dipstick and the dipstick shaft broke at the block. Not a fun fix. 
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IvAnOv
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Tom Im going to buy the plastic Manifol, do you recommend the vanity cover?
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Tom Im going to buy the plastic Manifol, do you recommend the vanity cover?
Most people that purchase the plastic intake manifold don't get the vanity cover. Some people get the cover and take the foam insulation out of it and then use the cover. Some get the cover and only put it on when they are showing off their engine at a car show. I personally would have no use for the cover as I value performance. Really depends what you want.
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thanks for the quick reply and the info regarding the heatsoak - regarding the oil dipstick, is it possible to replace the '04 oe dipstick with the '05, assuming that the '05 was designed to work with the factory plastic intake?
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IvAnOv
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Most people are installing the plastic intake without the vanity cover because the cover retains heat and leads to heatsoak.
That is the principal problem with the Vanity Cover? the heat that it retains ? Its a shame I love the plastic manifold but the chrome vanity cover is a dream ! I value performance too but that mod of the vanity cover got my crazy ! Do you think that I really going to affect the performance of my motor?
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I am thinking of purchasing the plastic intake for my '04 turbo along with the BTG strut tower brace. I noticed in the instructions that the vanity cover is removed and not replaced when installing the brace. I like the look of the cover, but if I can't use it with the brace I won't buy the intake with the vanity cover. Has anyone installed this combination? I also noted that the clutch master cylinder needed to be re-located down when installing the brace, which I did as a test by bolting the bracket to one of the pcm bolt positions which is approx 2 inches lower than the original bracket. I'm wondering about access to the clutch and brake master cylinders with the brace in place. Any advise would be greatly appreciated!
Most people are installing the plastic intake without the vanity cover because the cover retains heat and leads to heatsoak. I had the BTG strut brace on my '03 5 speed GT and did not have to relocate the clutch master cylinder. It was very close, though. I had to place a piece of rubber 3/8" hose on the strut bar to keep the plastic resevoir from rubbing on the strut bar. All GT's are different, though and you may or may not need to relocate your resevoir. You could probably manufacture some type of bracket to keep the resevoir in about the same place but a little offset to not interfere with the strut bar.
I have the 06 Intake on my 03 dream. I put it on to get rid of the heat soak. before the install when you waked in front of the PT after a drive you could fill the heat comeing from the Motor. if you poped the hood an tryed to touch the intake you were burnt Bad,
I removed the ruber instalation from the Vanity cover. now I can drive the PT hard park an walk in front of the PT an pop the hood an lay my hand on the vanity cover an not get burnt.
just oder the 06 dip stick for 5 bucks.
Hope this helps
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Most people are installing the plastic intake without the vanity cover because the cover retains heat and leads to heatsoak.
That is the principal problem with the Vanity Cover? the heat that it retains ? Its a shame I love the plastic manifold but the chrome vanity cover is a dream ! I value performance too but that mod of the vanity cover got my crazy ! Do you think that I really going to affect the performance of my motor?
You can drive with it with no problem. Normal everyday driving won't be a problem. You won't have all the power you could have without it. If you go to the track I'd take it off.
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You can just leave out the foam insulator and there will be an air gap between the vanity cover and the intake, My DC4 came with the plastic intake, although after many months of beta testing the New Chromed vanity cover for the manufacturer,(on the road and at the track in July) I have not seen any performance gain or loss between using the vanity cover and not using it, it is not hot to the touch when you open the hood after running hard (without the insulator pad) and I think it looks good. Also I have no clearance problems with the BTG Strut Brace.
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 Meanie: re: your great photo: what are those two yellow thingies at the 1 oclock position off from the vanity cover? Some kind of hose clamps?? Will the BTG strut brace fit the 06 the same way? Also: how'd you get the chrysler emblem on your vanity cover? Did you add that yourself? Lis
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Dream 4
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I am not sure what "Yellow part" your are talking about,(I will be glad to help if you can point it out a little better for me. ) also yes the BTG Strut bar will fit the '06 (see link)http://pt-tuning.com/...ckTowerBrace_GT.html , also the Chrysler Wing plate came stock on my '05 DC4 Factory vanity cover, although I had to replace it as the chrome plater had damaged the new one removing it for plating, a new one was about $14.00, I can give you the part number if you need it.
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Melissa
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Whoops, sorry I had the wrong poster's name in prior response. Okay: look at your picture just to the right and off of the 2.4L embossing on the chrome cover...looks like two yellow blocks--what are those?. I'll go look at the links you supplied. Yes, I'd like the part number of the wing plate. Thanks much, Lis
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Forgot something: is that a yellow manifold cover or something I see down below? How did you do that? I mean, how did you get it yellow? Lis
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Forgot something: is that a yellow manifold cover or something I see down below? How did you do that? I mean, how did you get it yellow? Lis
That is the throttle body cover that covers the throttle cable and the cruise control cable, It is normaly black, I just painted it yellow to match my other stuff, Yes that is a "Powder Coated" valve cover, you can get them in pretty much what ever color you want, you can also buy one from your Chrysler parts department, but others are a lot cheaper, ebay has them also,"Powder coat" is nicer and a lot more durable than paint. the part number for the Wing plate is 1-04593621AA.
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Thanks much for your answers Dream 4! Lis
Hey: I posted this elsewhere but never got an answer: do you know where the Dana Corporation Multitwister oil separator can be purchased? Can't find it......I know Dana only wholesales out to the big guys and mfgrs like Ford has some.
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Thanks much for your answers Dream 4!Lis
Hey: I posted this elsewhere but never got an answer: do you know where the Dana Corporation Multitwister oil separator can be purchased? Can't find it......I know Dana only wholesales out to the big guys and mfgrs like Ford has some.
From what I have read, it is not an aftermarket part, and will be cast into the thermoplastic and thermoset cylinder-head covers that are made by Danna, for the New car manufactures, this may change later if someone designs a new cylinder head cover for the 2.4L PT engine.
http://news.thomasnet.com/fullstory/470993/45
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Okay: so we'd have to wait until it becomes an OEM addon or mod from Chrysler? Here's an international article except I read: " The MultiTwister air/oil separator can be easily integrated into Dana's
thermoplastic and thermoset cylinder-head covers, reducing system complexity.
The separator can also be sold individually to original-equipment
manufacturers (OEMs) for integration into their own cylinder-head cover
designs." Lis
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Dream 4
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Okay: so we'd have to wait until it becomes an OEM addon or mod from Chrysler? Here's an international article except I read: " The MultiTwister air/oil separator can be easily integrated into Dana's
thermoplastic and thermoset cylinder-head covers, reducing system complexity.
The separator can also be sold individually to original-equipment
manufacturers (OEMs) for integration into their own cylinder-head cover
designs." Lis
Yeah so maybe Chrysler will make one for us someday
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