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harshpe
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I HAVE BEEN A CRUZER OWNER FOR ABOUT 3 YEARS, AFTER ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF I WAS SEEING FAINT TAPING MARKES ON MY BUMPERS,THEY SEEM TO GET DARKER AND DARKER AS TIME GOES BY.A FELLOW PT OWNER TOLD ME THAT THIS IS A FACTORY DEFECT, THIS MIGHT ONLY BE ON 2002 AND ABOVE MODELS THAT WERE BUILT IN MEXICO PER CHRYSLER CORP.THIS IS ALSO NOT A WARRANTY ISSUE, NOR DOES CHRYSLER FEEL THEY HAVE ANY RESPONSABILITY IN THIS MATTER.IF YOU HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM PLEASE CALL FEDERAL GOV. AUTO DEFECT 1-800-877-4357 AND ALSO CHRYSLER CORP. AT 1-800-992-1997. I FEEL THIS SHOULD BE TAKEN CARE OF.I LOVE MY CAR,I ADD CHROME AND IM PERSONALIZING IT MY WAY,I HATE THAT THESE MARKES ARE GETTING DARKER AND DARKER,IF THERE ARE A LOT OF US COMPLANING PERHAPS THEY WILL DO SOMETHING. PLEASE HELP.
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Search the forums. This topic has been discussed many many times. Chrysler has issued a TSB to repair the problem, but only for cruisers under warranty. Some have pushed it and gotten it done later. Try contacting your dealer and have him escalate it to the regional D/C rep.
Recently I've read of folks buying the paint that Chryler uses in a can and spraying the bumpers themselves.
BTW, typing all in caps is like yelling, no need to yell around here. 
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harshpe
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hay pt-taz thanks alot, i dident think this was the first time someone said any thing about the tape,sorry for yelling, im very new at this, iv been a member for a few years and never chatted. thanks again
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 Hello.As Taz said,this is a long standing problem from cruisers in 2001,like mine .There are a # of things that you can do yourself to help minimise this problem.One of the easiest fixes is to go to your local auto parts store and pick up Mothers Back to Black.Coat the bumpers as directed every 3 months.This is my method of handling it.You can also paint your bumpers,but keep in mind that when they get hit by whatever,you are obligating yourself to a repaint.There also are items,although pricey,called bumper covers which cover the front and rear bumpers in full.If you press your dealer he may fix it,because D/C knows that this problem originated with them.I hope this helps.All the best and God Bless.
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His: 2001 Black LE with Auto Transmission, BullDog Signs Flames, WeatherTec wind deflectors, cargo area mat, PT trash can, PT valve stem caps and Dart's coldair intake, chrome tail and headlight bezels, chrome bumper inserts, chrome license plate pillow, chrome fender trim, 1940's retro chrome on front and back fenders, door spears, chrome hatch door trim, chrome gas door, brushed chrome door sills, billet door pins, custom "BlueHaze" dash mat, MRK Group lugnut covers, dome light trim, etc. and the chrome goes on......
Hers: 2003 Patriot Blue Woody with Automatic Transmission, Bulldog Signs Eeyore, Cargo area mat, WeatherTec wind deflectors, PT valve stem caps, PT trash can, "BlueHaze" custom dash mat, and chrome tailpipe extension, "Old School" wood shifter knob, wood and chrome door pins, MRK Group interior knob and switch covers, door surrounds, and dome light trim, chrome door surround trim, white eeyore window decals, smoothie hub cap, wood eeyore plaques ....and the Wood goes on
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cabinfever4
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hi
i have a 02 pt cruiser with the same problem and the way to get pretty much rid of it is to use yessssssssss ...... wd40. with a little rubbing it almost completely gets rid of it then a good coat of meguires nxt insane shine tire coating makes it look like new. hope this works for you... Dan
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i have a 02 pt cruiser with the same problem and the way to get pretty much rid of it is to use yessssssssss ...... wd40. with a little rubbing it almost completely gets rid of it then a good coat of meguires nxt insane shine tire coating makes it look like new. hope this works for you... Dan
They will come back..  I have to take the time out to take mine to the bodyshop and have them do the TSB on the tape marks cause my front bumper looks like sh$&. The marks are white at this point and nothing I mean nothing covers them up.
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My car had the worst you have ever seen. The dealers know that there is a TSB on the '01-'03 PT's. My advice is to go ape S*!t at the dealer. They will blow you off if you go in with a passive additude. They don't want a pi$$ed customer around other customers / potential buyers.
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I had my 2001 bumpers fixed in 2002, before the TSB, and before most started complaining. I didn't complain to the dealer but "mattter-of-factly" told him of the problem...and demostrated it with the used PT's on HIS lot....he fixed mine without question.
I disagree that you have to act like an a s s to get things done at a dealer. Use facts and talk in a consumer to consumer tone to the Service Manager or his boss.
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Just stating facts. My friend had the same problem, went to the same dealer, asked about the tape marks, and was told we can't do anything about it. I went 2 days later, and had the problem fixed with no questions asked.
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They look something like this? There is a TSB that will fix it.. If you need it PM me I can e-mail you a copy. It may not be done under warranty but any bodyshop can do the fix. This bumper was installed 6/2001(car accident). The OEM bumper installed factory 8/2000 did not have the tape marks, the rear never got them in 5 years. So it was a change in the production that makes those marks.
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My dealer split the cost with me to have them repainted.
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Hi Bluz.Joe PT is from my neck of the woods, and the vast majority of dealers around here take meakness and professional attitude for weakness.I first tried the mellow approach but found that here you get much farther with an attitude,A .357 ,and a kind word,than just a kind word alone.It is a unfortunate byproduct of the way customers are treated.All the best,and God Bless You and Yours.
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His: 2001 Black LE with Auto Transmission, BullDog Signs Flames, WeatherTec wind deflectors, cargo area mat, PT trash can, PT valve stem caps and Dart's coldair intake, chrome tail and headlight bezels, chrome bumper inserts, chrome license plate pillow, chrome fender trim, 1940's retro chrome on front and back fenders, door spears, chrome hatch door trim, chrome gas door, brushed chrome door sills, billet door pins, custom "BlueHaze" dash mat, MRK Group lugnut covers, dome light trim, etc. and the chrome goes on......
Hers: 2003 Patriot Blue Woody with Automatic Transmission, Bulldog Signs Eeyore, Cargo area mat, WeatherTec wind deflectors, PT valve stem caps, PT trash can, "BlueHaze" custom dash mat, and chrome tailpipe extension, "Old School" wood shifter knob, wood and chrome door pins, MRK Group interior knob and switch covers, door surrounds, and dome light trim, chrome door surround trim, white eeyore window decals, smoothie hub cap, wood eeyore plaques ....and the Wood goes on
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Hi Bluz.Joe PT is from my neck of the woods, and the vast majority of dealers around here take meakness and professional attitude for weakness.I first tried the mellow approach but found that here you get much farther with an attitude,A .357,and a kind word,than just a kind word alone.It is a unfortunate byproduct of the way customers are treated.All the best,and God Bless You and Yours.
I guess it's just a New York thing Mike!
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 Joe it sure the hell is.Us NY guys have to speak up for each other.Great to see you back.
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Mike Casabianca
His: 2001 Black LE with Auto Transmission, BullDog Signs Flames, WeatherTec wind deflectors, cargo area mat, PT trash can, PT valve stem caps and Dart's coldair intake, chrome tail and headlight bezels, chrome bumper inserts, chrome license plate pillow, chrome fender trim, 1940's retro chrome on front and back fenders, door spears, chrome hatch door trim, chrome gas door, brushed chrome door sills, billet door pins, custom "BlueHaze" dash mat, MRK Group lugnut covers, dome light trim, etc. and the chrome goes on......
Hers: 2003 Patriot Blue Woody with Automatic Transmission, Bulldog Signs Eeyore, Cargo area mat, WeatherTec wind deflectors, PT valve stem caps, PT trash can, "BlueHaze" custom dash mat, and chrome tailpipe extension, "Old School" wood shifter knob, wood and chrome door pins, MRK Group interior knob and switch covers, door surrounds, and dome light trim, chrome door surround trim, white eeyore window decals, smoothie hub cap, wood eeyore plaques ....and the Wood goes on
http://community.webshots.com/user/mdcvmvc
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Interesting? Around me in the community are 5 other pts and we all talk and I do odds and ends for them periodicaly and we all have this same frickn problem, the tape marks are lighter than the bumper and diffently are tape masking probs at manufactoring time, all are 2001 and manuf in mexico, we use a vinyal darkener called back to black and it brings it up to a solid looking finish untill a rain or car wash happens..gurrrrrrrrr
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Hi Bluz.Joe PT is from my neck of the woods, and the vast majority of dealers around here take meakness and professional attitude for weakness.I first tried the mellow approach but found that here you get much farther with an attitude,A .357,and a kind word,than just a kind word alone.It is a unfortunate byproduct of the way customers are treated.All the best,and God Bless You and Yours.
I guess it's just a New York thing Mike!
Bluz, you are talkin to folks who have dealt with Yonkers Avenue Dodge, quite possibly the lienest cheatinest dealer on the planet!
Try to be nice....forgidaboudit! 
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Hey Taz,thanks for the further explaination to Bluz.Unfortunately it isn't just them.I have received identical bad treatment in every Chrysler Dealer in both Southern Westchester and upper Bronx County NY.I just say the hell with it and just bring MS.CRN to my mechanic.He takes care of the warrantee and life is grand.I have had the same mechanic for 20 years so I avoid hassles and bring it to him.Gin's PT gets all its service in the Chrysler dealer in Fair Haven VT.when we go to the inlaws to visit.Alll the best and may God Bless You.
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Mike Casabianca
His: 2001 Black LE with Auto Transmission, BullDog Signs Flames, WeatherTec wind deflectors, cargo area mat, PT trash can, PT valve stem caps and Dart's coldair intake, chrome tail and headlight bezels, chrome bumper inserts, chrome license plate pillow, chrome fender trim, 1940's retro chrome on front and back fenders, door spears, chrome hatch door trim, chrome gas door, brushed chrome door sills, billet door pins, custom "BlueHaze" dash mat, MRK Group lugnut covers, dome light trim, etc. and the chrome goes on......
Hers: 2003 Patriot Blue Woody with Automatic Transmission, Bulldog Signs Eeyore, Cargo area mat, WeatherTec wind deflectors, PT valve stem caps, PT trash can, "BlueHaze" custom dash mat, and chrome tailpipe extension, "Old School" wood shifter knob, wood and chrome door pins, MRK Group interior knob and switch covers, door surrounds, and dome light trim, chrome door surround trim, white eeyore window decals, smoothie hub cap, wood eeyore plaques ....and the Wood goes on
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Interesting? Around me in the community are 5 other pts and we all talk and I do odds and ends for them periodicaly and we all have this same frickn problem, the tape marks are lighter than the bumper and diffently are tape masking probs at manufactoring time, all are 2001 and manuf in mexico, we use a vinyal darkener called back to black and it brings it up to a solid looking finish untill a rain or car wash happens..gurrrrrrrrr
Yeah mother's back to black worked for the 1st year. Now it doesn't cover/hide them.. It was a change in production. My PT proves it. Front bumper replaced because of accident in 6/01 and rear was OEM 8/00(date of build) and never got them..
Now since I was rear-ended in may 05 I am just waiting for that bumper to develope the marks as well..
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Every one of us here in the city of Pacifc that have cruisers (6) except for Jans (brand new gt) has the same fricken problem with it. all are 2001-2002
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I've been REAL lucky and never got the dreaded tape marks. 4CRUISN was built 8/00 and delivered 9/4/00. I've not had to do anything, except use the Back to Black or Tire Slick to cover up some white marks left behind when the guy painted my frontend.  
As far as the Northeast having poop headed dealers, you're not alone! Here in Carlsbad, NM the good ol' boys are alive and well.....to get anything done like this is like pulling teeth.
They are pickup guys, that's all they care about is selling pickups and they won't sponsor any PT stuff. They wouldn't even put up a flyer about an event I'm having up in the mountains in October.
There's nothing like a bad dealer.....it's like having a bad teacher.
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I've been REAL lucky and never got the dreaded tape marks. 4CRUISN was built 8/00 and delivered 9/4/00. I've not had to do anything, except use the Back to Black or Tire Slick to cover up some white marks left behind when the guy painted my frontend.
As far as the Northeast having poop headed dealers, you're not alone! Here in Carlsbad, NM the good ol' boys are alive and well.....to get anything done like this is like pulling teeth.
They are pickup guys, that's all they care about is selling pickups and they won't sponsor any PT stuff. They wouldn't even put up a flyer about an event I'm having up in the mountains in October.
There's nothing like a bad dealer.....it's like having a bad teacher.
So was mine! Date of build 8/2/2000 so we know its a change in production cause my rear never got it either front did cause it was replaced in 6/01..
No dealers everywhere are pig-headed.. Last dealer I fired, updated my PCM with an update for an automatic transmission PT.. Umm yeah I have a 5-speed.. And then they tried to give me the PT back sputtering and just running worse than when I brought it in!
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