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MotorcycleBoy
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Posted: Dec 8, 2007, 10:41 AM
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hi guys/gals - new here - will be purchasing a 2001 pt limited on monday (possibly) - just checking to see if you guys know of any probs to watch out for... or questions i should ask... i tried looking at the tech tips - threads (part I and II) but says i am denied?? am i doing something wrong?
thanks!
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2000 Mercury Cougar 2.5L V6 MTX5
1990 Honda CRX DX 1.5L I4 MTX5
1997 Dodge Caravan 3.3L V6 ATX4 (work) :)
1986 Suzuki GS450L 6-Speed Cruiser
1986 Kawasaki ZX600R Ninja 6-Speed Sport
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Re: [MotorcycleBoy] new to the site :)
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 Hello and welcome to cruising and the PTCC from Mike and Ginny Casabianca of Yonkers New York.I have a 2001 Limited Edition That I bought in 2002 and Gin has a 2003 Patriot Blue Touring Edition Woody she bought new.The 2001 Limited had the Best of the best options available,before Chrysler started to cheap out with each succeding year.It has the heated and folding mirrors,dual tone horn,full Suede and Leather seats,and if ordered as available options at the time,Traction Control,ABS, 4 wheel disc brakes,and heated driver and passenger seats.The PT is extremly reliable mechanically,and the two things I would sugggest doing immeadiately is to switch to 5w-30 full synthetic oil and to install a cold air intake system.The air filtration system was made quite small in the 2001 and the intake will definately improve gas pedal response.I also saw improvement in gas mileage and smoother engine operation after switching to full synthetic oil.Like any car if you keep up with the matainance it will give you many years of relatively trouble free driving.The reason why you were denied access into the technical forums is because you are not a full member of PTCC Certain forums and chat are restricted to use by full members.Oh stay tuned for infection by the "Mod Bug".Once it strikes it is terminal and you will spend large amounts of $$ making it your own.Peace Out and God Bless.....................Mike
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Mike Casabianca
His: 2001 Black LE with Auto Transmission, BullDog Signs Flames, WeatherTec wind deflectors, cargo area mat, PT trash can, PT valve stem caps and Dart's coldair intake, chrome tail and headlight bezels, chrome bumper inserts, chrome license plate pillow, chrome fender trim, 1940's retro chrome on front and back fenders, door spears, chrome hatch door trim, chrome gas door, brushed chrome door sills, billet door pins, custom "BlueHaze" dash mat, MRK Group lugnut covers, dome light trim, etc. and the chrome goes on......
Hers: 2003 Patriot Blue Woody with Automatic Transmission, Bulldog Signs Eeyore, Cargo area mat, WeatherTec wind deflectors, PT valve stem caps, PT trash can, "BlueHaze" custom dash mat, and chrome tailpipe extension, "Old School" wood shifter knob, wood and chrome door pins, MRK Group interior knob and switch covers, door surrounds, and dome light trim, chrome door surround trim, white eeyore window decals, smoothie hub cap, wood eeyore plaques ....and the Wood goes on
http://community.webshots.com/user/mdcvmvc
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MotorcycleBoy
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Posted: Dec 8, 2007, 12:00 PM
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Re: [Cruiser RN] new to the site :)
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mod bug?? what's that? lol
i hear mixed reviews from my friends about that first model year... so was just curious, atx probs, head gasket probs, etc...
i did notice a small airbox in it - lol - so will prob convert that if i do purchase this :)
it ran great, looks great (inside/out), basically it's a dodge neon with a different shell :)
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so we'll see...
thanks for the feedback!
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2000 Mercury Cougar 2.5L V6 MTX5
1990 Honda CRX DX 1.5L I4 MTX5
1997 Dodge Caravan 3.3L V6 ATX4 (work) :)
1986 Suzuki GS450L 6-Speed Cruiser
1986 Kawasaki ZX600R Ninja 6-Speed Sport
2001 Chrysler PT Cruiser LE 2.4L I4 ATX4 (pending) :)
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rsobhian
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Posted: Dec 8, 2007, 1:54 PM
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Welcome to the club... so whaddaya ride MotorcycleBoy? 
The '01 LE is an excellent choice and as mike as mentioned came with a lot of options that were later dropped and now are coveted by those in the know. These are all what Mike has so nicely listed for you.
Our '01 LE has about 98K miles on it and so far no major issues with engine or drivetrain.
What's the mileage on the one you're looking at? You may want to check if the timing belt has been replaced on it. A timing belt job on the PT is more expensive than average (could run close to $1K), and should be done by 100K miles.
As you have mentioned the PT was built on the Neon platform. Good news is that Neon's suspension was one of its better assets and gave it pretty good handling. Likewise, I've been happy with the handling of the PT - as long as you remember it's a wagon and you don't expect it to handle like a Mini.
The bad news is that, the PT suspension is plagued with the same design flaws as the Neon, namely the weak and failure-prone control arm bushings. The rear pushing on the front control arms particularly wears out regularly and gets torn. When bad, the car makes a clanking noise when you hit sharp little bumps. I think in one of the threads on this forum someone had posted nice pictures of damaged ones, which are visible when the car is jacked up.
In any case, if the car you are looking at has bad control arm bushings, leverage it to have them lower the price a bit, but make sure when you go to fix it, you use Energy Suspension poly bushings. If you fix them with the OEM ones they'll go bad again within a year or two just after their warranty expires.
Good luck with the purchase and welcome again.
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Mods: Tokico HP all around / Energy Suspension Master Kit / K&N drop-in / R1 Concepts drilled & slotte disks all around / Enkei RPF1 16x7 wheels & Conti Extreme Contact rubber / Prestige APS620 remote starter
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MotorcycleBoy
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Posted: Dec 8, 2007, 2:32 PM
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cool :) oh yeah - it's a 2001 LE - ATX - with 88k miles on it... looks very clean inside and out - i'll ask about the service history... :)
as for what i ride - i'll post that in my signature (if i have enough room) LOL :)
by the way - the cruiser is a gift for my parents for Christmas - shhhhh ;)
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2000 Mercury Cougar 2.5L V6 MTX5
1990 Honda CRX DX 1.5L I4 MTX5
1997 Dodge Caravan 3.3L V6 ATX4 (work) :)
1986 Suzuki GS450L 6-Speed Cruiser
1986 Kawasaki ZX600R Ninja 6-Speed Sport
2001 Chrysler PT Cruiser LE 2.4L I4 ATX4 (pending) :)
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rsobhian
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as for what i ride - i'll post that in my signature (if i have enough room) LOL :)
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by the way - the cruiser is a gift for my parents for Christmas - shhhhh ;)
You rock! 
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2001 silver Limited-Touring (leather/suede, 4W disk, traction, heated mirrors & all :-)
Mods: Tokico HP all around / Energy Suspension Master Kit / K&N drop-in / R1 Concepts drilled & slotte disks all around / Enkei RPF1 16x7 wheels & Conti Extreme Contact rubber / Prestige APS620 remote starter
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If you go to the bottom of this post and click on our photo link you will see Mike's PT Volume #1 thru #4.I still have to update pictures but I have steadily added to my PT for about 4 years time.This is the "MOD BUG",when it bites it bites very hard.........Mike
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Mike Casabianca
His: 2001 Black LE with Auto Transmission, BullDog Signs Flames, WeatherTec wind deflectors, cargo area mat, PT trash can, PT valve stem caps and Dart's coldair intake, chrome tail and headlight bezels, chrome bumper inserts, chrome license plate pillow, chrome fender trim, 1940's retro chrome on front and back fenders, door spears, chrome hatch door trim, chrome gas door, brushed chrome door sills, billet door pins, custom "BlueHaze" dash mat, MRK Group lugnut covers, dome light trim, etc. and the chrome goes on......
Hers: 2003 Patriot Blue Woody with Automatic Transmission, Bulldog Signs Eeyore, Cargo area mat, WeatherTec wind deflectors, PT valve stem caps, PT trash can, "BlueHaze" custom dash mat, and chrome tailpipe extension, "Old School" wood shifter knob, wood and chrome door pins, MRK Group interior knob and switch covers, door surrounds, and dome light trim, chrome door surround trim, white eeyore window decals, smoothie hub cap, wood eeyore plaques ....and the Wood goes on
http://community.webshots.com/user/mdcvmvc
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Hello and welcome from East Tennessee. I have an 01 LE and have had no problems with it unless you call the mod bug biting a problem.
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AUCRZR
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just checking to see if you guys know of any probs to watch out for
Yes as stated MOD FEVER
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The PT has nothing to do with the neon. You can check that misconception within the archives of this site.
If the PT you are looking at has been halfway maintained at all...you should enjoy the ride. Welcome to the site.
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MotorcycleBoy
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The PT has nothing to do with the neon.
sure it does - they have the same 2.4 engine and other mechanicals... not a misconception just a fact...
so basically - it's a neon with a different shell and unibody frame...
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2000 Mercury Cougar 2.5L V6 MTX5
1990 Honda CRX DX 1.5L I4 MTX5
1997 Dodge Caravan 3.3L V6 ATX4 (work) :)
1986 Suzuki GS450L 6-Speed Cruiser
1986 Kawasaki ZX600R Ninja 6-Speed Sport
2001 Chrysler PT Cruiser LE 2.4L I4 ATX4 (pending) :)
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AUCRZR
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so basically - it's a neon with a different shell and unibody frame...
So then in 1969 a Camero,Chevelle,Nova and Impala were all bascially the same car they just had different bodies and frames but shared engines.. . A Roadrunner,Cuda,Challenger,GTX and Charger were the same too.. OK I get you are right
The PT is a Neon.  Since the Neon came 1st.. And since the SRT 10 Ram PU has a Viper engine, I assume it is bascially a Viper also.
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AUCRZR'S PT PIX WEBSITE http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2954617/1
My Other Toys..
1979 El Camino
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2606839
1969 SS Chevelle
(00=SS=00)http://www.cardomain.com/ride/791497
2003 Electric Blue/2003 Onyx Green (Sharon's "In the Pink" )
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MotorcycleBoy
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funny - but yes - you are correct...
just as the cougar and sable and contour share the same engine... just different bodies...
also - just as vw's and porsche's use the same engines...
so - yes :)
oh and - mercedes makes the engines for the euro-pt's since 2006....
we are still stuck with the mexican engines... hehe
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1990 Honda CRX DX 1.5L I4 MTX5
1997 Dodge Caravan 3.3L V6 ATX4 (work) :)
1986 Suzuki GS450L 6-Speed Cruiser
1986 Kawasaki ZX600R Ninja 6-Speed Sport
2001 Chrysler PT Cruiser LE 2.4L I4 ATX4 (pending) :)
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The PT has nothing to do with the neon.
sure it does - they have the same 2.4 engine and other mechanicals... not a misconception just a fact...
so basically - it's a neon with a different shell and unibody frame...
YAWN...............!
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Bluephrog
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What? You call it a Neon because it has the same engine? Many of Chrysler's and Dodge's other vehicles including their minivans and even several models of the Jeep use the 2.4L engine and the 41TE transmission. Up to 2001 the Neon had different engines and transmissions, so I guess you could say the Neon is a PT.
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Bo Blue PT
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Howdy from the Lone Star State and yep... look out for that Mod Bug!
This is what happens when you get the Mod Bug!
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If you think the PT is the same as a neon.......well, you better check into it a little further before sounding so certain.
Suggestion....you are not the first newbie to have come in here with the same misconception, so don't feel embarrased about it.
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Howdy from the Lone Star State and yep... look out for that Mod Bug!
This is what happens when you get the Mod Bug!
I just recent, on 11/08, purchased a 2001 Limited. I'm going to modify it a little bit but don't see myself adding all of the chrome to the outside, or even the interior, that it seems most of you do. So far I've replaced the wheels with Voxx Monza 16X7's and Pirelli P3000 tires. I will, possibly this weekend, change out the backup lights with the Tyco units. Additional plans are to add the K&N air intake and filter, maybe something with the exhaust system at some point. I do need a new hood as mine has some minor dents at the nose where it looks like someone press to hard trying to get the hood closed. I'm leaning towards the Keystone Functional Ram-Air Hood as I like the subtle look of the single scoop. I've thought about painting the grille black, don't want a chrome one. Mine is the Shale Green and I think a black grille might look sharp. I don't think I want to lower it as it seems to be plenty low for me already. Maybe change over the K&N struts and shocks at some point. My desires are to make it handle and perform better, and not so much to look better.
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MotorcycleBoy
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Howdy from the Lone Star State and yep... look out for that Mod Bug!
This is what happens when you get the Mod Bug!
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2000 Mercury Cougar 2.5L V6 MTX5
1990 Honda CRX DX 1.5L I4 MTX5
1997 Dodge Caravan 3.3L V6 ATX4 (work) :)
1986 Suzuki GS450L 6-Speed Cruiser
1986 Kawasaki ZX600R Ninja 6-Speed Sport
2001 Chrysler PT Cruiser LE 2.4L I4 ATX4 (pending) :)
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MotorcycleBoy
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If you think the PT is the same as a neon.......well, you better check into it a little further before sounding so certain.
Suggestion....you are not the first newbie to have come in here with the same misconception, so don't feel embarrased about it.
lol i'm not the one who is embarrassed - please show me that it's NOT based on the neon whatsoever and i'll buy you lunch for the next 2 years...
sorry if it's such a touchy subject :) i don't mind either way - lol
http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpcontainers/do/vdp/articleId=44277/pageNumber=1?synpartner=edmunds&pageurl=www.edmunds.com/new/2008/chrysler/ptcruiser/100893674/roadtestarticle.html& articleId=44277
i'm just concerned (as my first post) about any mechanical issues...
thanks!
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2000 Mercury Cougar 2.5L V6 MTX5
1990 Honda CRX DX 1.5L I4 MTX5
1997 Dodge Caravan 3.3L V6 ATX4 (work) :)
1986 Suzuki GS450L 6-Speed Cruiser
1986 Kawasaki ZX600R Ninja 6-Speed Sport
2001 Chrysler PT Cruiser LE 2.4L I4 ATX4 (pending) :)
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If you think the PT is the same as a neon.......well, you better check into it a little further before sounding so certain.
Suggestion....you are not the first newbie to have come in here with the same misconception, so don't feel embarrased about it.
lol i'm not the one who is embarrassed - please show me that it's NOT based on the neon whatsoever and i'll buy you lunch for the next 2 years...
sorry if it's such a touchy subject :) i don't mind either way - lol
http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpcontainers/do/vdp/articleId=44277/pageNumber=1?synpartner=edmunds&pageurl=www.edmunds.com/new/2008/chrysler/ptcruiser/100893674/roadtestarticle.html& articleId=44277
i'm just concerned (as my first post) about any mechanical issues...
thanks!
Your mind is made up, so what would be the use for me to waste my time any further with the matter?
There is plenty of research for you here within the archives of this site, as I suggested earlier, but this topic is closed for me as of now.
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why even post? you haven't even remained on topic - was looking for suggestions, info, in which neither you provied - so why even post? i'm not looking for your argument of right/wrong here - just looking for suggestions...
and - if you can't even back up your claims - then don't even bother...
and - as a new member to this site - aren't you supposed to provide links to your archives??
thanks!
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2000 Mercury Cougar 2.5L V6 MTX5
1990 Honda CRX DX 1.5L I4 MTX5
1997 Dodge Caravan 3.3L V6 ATX4 (work) :)
1986 Suzuki GS450L 6-Speed Cruiser
1986 Kawasaki ZX600R Ninja 6-Speed Sport
2001 Chrysler PT Cruiser LE 2.4L I4 ATX4 (pending) :)
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Hi MB and welcome. Just to let you know, my PT is an (01) that I bought with 2,800 miles on it. It was built in April 2000 and now has almost 121,000 miles on it. Changed the timing belt and water pump at 115,000 for maint. Other than brakes, tires and standard care, it's been a great friendship.
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MotorcycleBoy
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awesome to hear :)
i've been hearing mixed things on it - but so far i'd say 9 out of 10 have been positive :)
now about pricing... the one i'm looking at has 88k miles - spotless inside and out - but sticker price is $7200 - i think it's way pricey... i figured maybe in the $5k range?
haven't been able to talk numbers this week due to weather and late work.... so come monday will find out for sure :)
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2000 Mercury Cougar 2.5L V6 MTX5
1990 Honda CRX DX 1.5L I4 MTX5
1997 Dodge Caravan 3.3L V6 ATX4 (work) :)
1986 Suzuki GS450L 6-Speed Cruiser
1986 Kawasaki ZX600R Ninja 6-Speed Sport
2001 Chrysler PT Cruiser LE 2.4L I4 ATX4 (pending) :)
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Back when I got mine, there was an 8 month wait for a new one and they wanted $24,000 for mine. I managed to get them down to $21,000. Still pretty high for a used Limited, but I'm glad I bought it.
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If it's gonna happen - it's gonna happen out there.
(This post was edited by slipfit on Dec 15, 2007, 9:42 AM)
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