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on-code 420;can anyone tell me exactly what it means?

 

 


bellasvoice
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Posted: Apr 26, 2008, 6:26 PM

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Hello!

I have an '01, and the engine light popped on. Thanks to the help I received from many of you a few months ago, I am aware of cycling the key to get a code(s). I found the description for the code is "the catalyst seems inefficient (#1)" or "P0420 Catalyst System Low Efficiency", but I don't quite know what that means. Exhaust system issue? That's never been worked on-all parts are still original. Thanks in advance for any insight you can give!

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Posts: 17 | From: N/A | Registered: Feb 24, 2004, 5:37 AM



ALJDIAMANT
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Posted: Apr 27, 2008, 7:01 AM

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These code descriptions come from the Service Manual. Bite the bullet and take it to a dealer with proper diagnostin equipment.

P0420 (M) 1/1 Catalytic Converter Efficiency Catalyst 1/1 efficiency below required level.


P0432 (M) 1/2 Catalytic Converter Efficiency Catalyst 2/1 efficiency below required level.

CATALYTIC CONVERTER

DESCRIPTION

An under-floor catalytic converter inlet is attached

to the exhaust manifold using fasteners and a gasket

for sealing (Fig. 7). A flex joint that is integral to the

converter allows movement between the engine and

the exhaust system. The converter outlet attaches to

the intermediate pipe.

OPERATION

The three-way catalytic converter simultaneously

converts three exhaust emissions into harmless

gases. Specifically, HC and CO emissions are converted

into water (H2O) and carbon dioxide (CO2).

Oxides of Nitrogen (NOx) are converted into Nitrogen

(N) and Oxygen. The three-way catalyst is most efficient

in converting HC, CO and NOx at the stoichiometric

air fuel ratio of 14.7:1.

Fig. 5 Intermediate Pipe

1 - CLAMP

2 - CATALYTIC CONVERTER PIPE

3 - INTERMEDIATE PIPE

4 - ISOLATOR

5 - HANGER

Fig. 6 Band Clamp

1 - CLAMP SIZE

2 - TORQUE SPECIFICATION

11 - 8 EXHAUST SYSTEM AND TURBOCHARGER PT

INTERMEDIATE PIPE (Continued)

The oxygen content in a catalyst is important for

efficient conversion of exhaust gases. When a high

oxygen content (lean) air/fuel ratio is present for an

extended period, oxygen content in a catalyst can

reach a maximum. When a rich air/fuel ratio is

present for an extended period, the oxygen content in

the catalyst can become totally depleted. When this

occurs, the catalyst fails to convert the gases. This is

known as catalyst 9punch through.9

Catalyst operation is dependent on its ability to

store and release the oxygen needed to complete the

emissions-reducing chemical reactions. As a catalyst

deteriorates, its ability to store oxygen is reduced.

Since the catalyst’s ability to store oxygen is somewhat

related to proper operation, oxygen storage can

be used as an indicator of catalyst performance.

Refer to the appropriate Diagnostic Information for

diagnosis of a catalyst related Diagnostic Trouble

Code (DTC).

The combustion reaction caused by the catalyst

releases additional heat in the exhaust system, causing

temperature increases in the area of the reactor

under severe operating conditions. Such conditions

can exist when the engine misfires or otherwise does

not operate at peak efficiency. Do not remove spark

plug wires from plugs or by any other means short

out cylinders. Failure of the catalytic converter can

occur due to temperature increases caused by

unburned fuel passing through the converter. This

deterioration of the catalyst core can result in excessively

high emission levels, noise complaints, and

exhaust restrictions.

Unleaded gasoline must be used to avoid ruining

the catalyst core. Do not allow engine to operate

above 1200 RPM in neutral for extended periods over

5 minutes. This condition may result in excessive

exhaust system/floor pan temperatures because of no

air movement under the vehicle.

The flex joint allows flexing as the engine moves,

preventing breakage that could occur from the backand-

forth motion of a transverse mounted engine.

CAUTION: Due to exterior physical similarities of

some catalytic converters with pipe assemblies,

extreme care should be taken with replacement

parts. There are internal converter differences

required in some parts of the country (particularly

vehicles built for States with strict emission

requirements) and between model years.

REMOVAL

WARNING: THE NORMAL OPERATING TEMPERATURE

OF THE EXHAUST SYSTEM IS VERY HIGH.

THEREFORE, NEVER ATTEMPT TO SERVICE ANY

PART OF THE EXHAUST SYSTEM UNTIL IT IS

COOLED. SPECIAL CARE SHOULD BE TAKEN

WHEN WORKING NEAR THE CATALYTIC CONVERTER.

THE TEMPERATURE OF THE CONVERTER

RISES TO A HIGH LEVEL AFTER A SHORT PERIOD

OF ENGINE OPERATION TIME.

NOTE: Before replacing a catalytic converter, determine

the root cause of failure. Most catalytic converter

failures are caused by air, fuel or ignition

problems. Refer to the appropriate service diagnostic

information for repair procedures.

(1) Loosen intermediate pipe-to catalytic converter

clamp.

NOTE: Do not use petroleum-based lubricants when

removing/installing muffler or exhaust pipe isolators

as it may compromise the life of the part. A

suitable substitute is a mixture of liquid dish soap

and water.

(2) Remove muffler/intermediate pipe insolators as

necessary to slide muffle/intermediate pipe assembly

out of catalytic converter.

(3) 1.6L Engine - Disconnect upstream oxygen sensor

electrical connector.

(4) Disconnect downstream oxygen sensor electrical

connector (Fig. 8).

(5) Remove catalytic converter to exhaust manifold

attaching fasteners and remove converter from vehicle

(Fig. 9), (Fig. 10), (Fig. 11) or (Fig. 12).

(6) Remove and discard flange gasket.

NOTE: When replacement is required on any component

of the exhaust system, original equipment

parts (or equivalent) must be used.

Fig. 7 Catalytic Converter - Typical


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Posts: 77 | From: NAPLES, FLORIDA | Registered: Apr 9, 2008, 4:50 PM



bellasvoice
Cruiser Fan

Posted: Apr 27, 2008, 7:08 AM

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Thanks so much for the info. I am just trying to get an idea of what may be the issue so I can be a little better prepared for the cost of the repair. I'll be having it properly diagnosed by a mechanic - though not a dealer.

Thank you again! Smile

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Posts: 17 | From: N/A | Registered: Feb 24, 2004, 5:37 AM



ALJDIAMANT
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Posted: Apr 27, 2008, 8:48 AM

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The diagnostic tool to analyze late model Chrysler products costs $6000. Unless a local service facility can afford to spend that ammount they can only do peripheral diagnostics. Your problem needs specialized diagnostic. Most independent garages do not do $6000 worth of diagnostic on select autos. It does not pay for them to buy the equipment. Get the diagnostic and cost estimate from Chrysler. Then you can go to your mechanic and compare repair costs.

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Posts: 77 | From: NAPLES, FLORIDA | Registered: Apr 9, 2008, 4:50 PM



MX-5
Cruiser Addict


Posted: Apr 28, 2008, 4:40 AM

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The diagnostic tool to analyze late model Chrysler products costs $6000. Unless a local service facility can afford to spend that ammount they can only do peripheral diagnostics.



That's true.
I have the DRB-III at my shop. If you are close to me, you're welcome to schedule an appointment.

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Posts: 860 | From: South Bend, IN | Registered: Nov 19, 2000, 12:00 AM



ALJDIAMANT
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Posted: Apr 28, 2008, 12:52 PM

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Quote:
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The diagnostic tool to analyze late model Chrysler products costs $6000. Unless a local service facility can afford to spend that ammount they can only do peripheral diagnostics.



That's true.
I have the DRB-III at my shop. If you are close to me, you're welcome to schedule an appointment.

Thanks for the invite. I owned an 11 bay service center and could not justify the cost of a DBRIII.
Indiana is a far trip from Florida...

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Posts: 77 | From: NAPLES, FLORIDA | Registered: Apr 9, 2008, 4:50 PM


 
 
 


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